BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND: IF THE ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY, WHO WOULD WIN ??
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burgermiester ( 81 posts / 5 fights ) from CAMARILLO, California (United States) on 03/05 at 08:30AM PT
Have to put in my pick before it goes public... Rudy Guiliani VP. Republicans will win over Obama & Hilary as VP. They will think the double race card will help, but it will actually hurt.
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markiemarc81 ( 39 posts / 4 fights ) from coffeyville , Kansas (United States) on 02/04 at 10:53PM PT
I am still sticking with Obama but I don't know the VP now...I will say Kathelien S. Govenor of my home state kansas. On the repub it will be McCain and the VP will be Huckabee
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on 02/04 at 11:40PM PTHuckabee????
Why would McCain ever load himself down with a ball and chain like "God Bless You Huckabee"?
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markiemarc81 ( 39 posts / 4 fights ) from coffeyville , Kansas (United States) on 02/06 at 12:40AM PT
Because as you see tonight he can win in the south.
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burgermiester ( 81 posts / 5 fights ) from CAMARILLO, California (United States) on 01/31 at 10:14AM PT
Hey, I was just thinking about bringing this topic back up! Hmmm...Who did I choose? Guess he came up with some money afterall. Now who for the running mate??????
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Anonymous - Log in to save post on 01/28 at 11:10PM PT
Hillary's advantage in experience is blown outof proportion. She has 4more years experience asa state senator, but he has been an elected official (Illinois Senate) for 3more years. It's impossible to value her experience asfirst lady w/o knowing what her impact at that position was. Neither have any executive experience. With the differences sosmall, this cannot be the deciding factor. Voting records, stance on issues, trustworthiness = Obama for me.
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on 02/01 at 05:30PM PT
I suppose that if you require major surgery - hopefully that will never happen - you will chose an intern rather than a seasoned doctor because he/she comes across sincere and is physically appealing.
Barns would pick the best and most experienced no matter his personal appeal.
You need to remember: our next president MUST gain IMMENSE world stature = respect and be feared for well thought out, experience based strong American positions.
And he needs to have historical perspective.
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Anonymous - Log in to save post on 02/04 at 03:00PM PT
Comparing their differences in experience toa seasoned doctor andan intern is exactly whatI meanby exagerating the small differences in their resumes. Its more important for meto agree witha candidate's vision forthe country than itis tobe comforted by a few more years in the Senate. Like Obama said, its important tobe ready onday one, but its also important tobe right. Ifhe were president, we wouldn't bein Iraq right now. Can't saythe same for Hillary.
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chem ( 60 posts / 0 fights ) from Palo Alto, California (United States) on 01/28 at 03:25PM PT
If we had to elect somebody today as sad as that would be, we would probably have a choice between Clinton and Romney. A question for Barns: can we have a third option to nominate write-in candidates? I think people have pets that might be more generally popular candidates.
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Spinner ( 131 posts / 3 fights ) from Sherman Oaks, California (United States) on 01/25 at 05:05PM PT
I think it's too soon to call, but I'll make an outrageous prediction: Clinton/Obama. We're ready for a CHANGE and this the operative word for the '08 election. So, let's go all the way with a female president and an African American VP. Now that's something to talk about!!!On a more "sound" footing - McCain/Giulani!!
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Backbiter ( 107 posts / 1 fights ) from West Hollywood, California (United States) on 01/25 at 08:08AM PT
Very interesting seeing the answers from the Summer. Winners if election were today Clinton/Obama. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the Dem ticket. GOP ticket (I'm daring predicting this) McCain/Lieberman.
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markiemarc81 ( 39 posts / 4 fights ) from coffeyville , Kansas (United States) on 11/20 at 08:30PM PT
I am saying Obama President and Edwards Vice. people can't trust hillary nor rudy. Romney's religon will get in the way. McCain is too much a maverick and Tompson is like regan except not in a good way.
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on 11/21 at 07:01AM PT
You know ... in some minor way, Barns likes Obama. Perhaps it is because he is just a STARTING POLITICAL ANIMAL.
The problem: if you had a horrible heart condition (God forbid) and needed a cardio-thoracic surgeon, would YOU go to a doc. one year out of residency?
Not likely. You would want the most experienced and successful doctor anywhere!
That is what Barns DREAMS for his ideal presidential candidate. Regrettably, NOBODY AROUND THAT GETS EVEN CLOSE.
The problem with Obama is : would you put this country's might into the hands of a novice?
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markiemarc81 ( 39 posts / 4 fights ) from coffeyville , Kansas (United States) on 11/23 at 04:47AM PT
Novice is a realitive term Barns. For arguments sake lets say that this more experienced is stuck in the old ways and clearly doesn't want to change this methods. Yes they get the job done but it's just (as Mash called it) Meatball surgery. Let's say that the less experienced doctor knows a better way of doing it and it keeps you safer in the long run. I choose safer over experience
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on 11/23 at 01:34PM PT
First, think thru giving the most potent armed forces in the world AND the decision making authority of the most powerful office in the world in the hands of somebody with ZERO experience. Ouch. Would you have open heart surgery done by the best RESIDENT just graduating from an OK med. school -- during the first day of his practice? Nah .... You might want him assisting in the surgery.
Second, will the rest of the world take Obama seriously? Not likely.... No international meat at all on his bones.
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markiemarc81 ( 39 posts / 4 fights ) from coffeyville , Kansas (United States) on 11/23 at 04:15PM PT
I really don't see any of the major canidates with that much experience on foriegn affairs. The one I do see in the low tier is Richardson.He has alot of experience as governor. If I could mix two canidates it would be Richardson and Obama. That would also be a great ticket for the whitehouse. problem is richardson is pro hillary.
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Anonymous - Log in to save post on 02/05 at 12:33AM PT
The fact that Clinton voted for the war in Iraq and has taken money from lobbyists take away from her advantage in experience and credibility/ability to bring the necessary change. It appears that Obama will be able to do a better job getting Congress to work together and bring transparency to the government. What experience does Clinton have over Obama that you can compare them to a seasoned doctor and an intern?
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Spinner ( 131 posts / 3 fights ) from Sherman Oaks, California (United States) on 07/10 at 06:21PM PT
Guilani for President - I think he the wherewithall to deal with our major crisis. Successfully dealing with 911 speaks loudly that he has what it takes! Vice president - let's see Fred Thompson!! Fred's wife would make a good running mate to Fred as well, she's young, attractive and seems to be low profile - for now that is! Hey, she's better looking than Hilary.All egos aside Hilary has a chance too
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jogor777 ( 78 posts / 5 fights ) from Paradise, California (United States) on 07/16 at 02:08PM PT
Don't ask the NYC firefighter's unions to agree with you on Guilani's performance rating for the 9/11 crisis. There seems to be plenty of credible evidence that his public posturing did not match his actual performance.
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mnstk76 ( 1 posts / 0 fights ) from Enid, Oklahoma (United States) on 07/09 at 09:54PM PT
Fred Thompson would be MY choice. He has the best ideals that closest match my philosophies...
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ioffer1 ( 4 posts / 0 fights ) from JACKSONjsck, Mississippi (United States) on 07/09 at 02:49PM PT
Fred Thompson an the one from hope Ar.Mike, can't spell his last name,they are the only ones that seem to have a lot of common sense,will miss george bush a lot,he will go down as one of our best presdents,My other favorite was Hoover,read your history,you will be amazed.
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ioffer1 ( 4 posts / 0 fights ) from JACKSONjsck, Mississippi (United States) on 07/09 at 02:49PM PT
Fred Thompson an the one from hope Ar.Mike, can't spell his last name,they are the only ones that seem to have a lot of common sense,will miss george bush a lot,he will go down as one of our best presdents,My other favorite was Hoover,read your history,you will be amazed.
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on 07/10 at 10:54AM PT
You are living dangerously! And you must feel very lonely! 22% approval ratings for Pres. Bush. If you take out his family and friends, AND YOU, that goes down to 10%.
Regrettably, history will not see anything that he has done that is positive. He will go down as the Iraq failure president.
Well ... we can still hope and pray for wisdom (or maybe diving intervention) on Iraq....
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Dougman ( 11 posts / 0 fights ) from Redondo Beach, California (United States) on 07/09 at 01:09PM PT
Fred Thompson, if they convince him to run will get the nomination and probably win. I think the American public will recognize him from TV and vote for him solely based on that. It is sad but true plus it worked for Arnold.
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Sage ( 15 posts / 0 fights ) from New York, New York (United States) on 07/09 at 01:11PM PT
Thompson is the perfect candidate. Doesn't stand for anything and no record to hold against him. Also looks like he could play the president on TV. I guess thats all that matters. Smart / qualified people want no part of that job
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burgermiester ( 81 posts / 5 fights ) from CAMARILLO, California (United States) on 07/09 at 12:35PM PT
If held today, Hillary would win the election. As a nation we still don't consider women equal in power yet, but would consider a female subconsciously as a mother type figure. We are looking for someone to take care of our home and family. Bring our troops home, correct a failing health system, secure the boarders, and keep us safe. Nominees: McCain & Obama
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Arthur1u ( 16 posts / 0 fights ) from Calgary, Alberta (Canada) on 07/06 at 06:01PM PT
I am not here to predict the next President or Vice but I hope that the next President is more towards the efforts of healing the sick, fixing the American Health System(s). It's sad to know that not only people in Africa starve but millions each day in the US. The next President should be more of a people person somewhat like Princess Diana (Rest in Peace). That's what I think, what do you?
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on 07/07 at 11:00AM PT
You ask a massive question.... The fundamental issue is with the political process more so than THE OFFICE OR THE PERSON IN IT. Without term limits, the President is just another politician running for re-election. One 6 year term will do it for Barns! Also, our best and brightest will not run for office. Toooooooo much pain to get there!
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on 07/07 at 11:06AM PT
In our world of regressing puritan ethics and tragic political correctness, no politician will speak his/her mind much less act purely on conscience.
Perfersely, much maligned President Bush is more likely to speak to (although not eloquently) AND act his heartfelt convictions than any recent president. Certainly since Johnson, who was also much maligned (inherited VietNam) yet enormously efficient in domestic matters.
You are welcome to challenge Barns in a fun Alley FIght!!
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Arthur1u ( 16 posts / 0 fights ) from Calgary, Alberta (Canada) on 07/07 at 10:46PM PT
Asking for too much? Where do you come off saying that, I mean how inconsiderate a thought could ever be. You ask for out input and than you step on us. Shame on you, why don't you just compliment a good gesture of human nature and read on?
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on 07/08 at 11:38PM PT
Interesting. Also dead wrong.
You offered an opinion. You also asked: "That's what I think, what do you?"
The response you got from Barns commenced with: "You ask a massive question..." Then some thoughts on the fundamental issues associated with presidential decision making.
How you can construe that as stepping on your opinion is a challenge to Barns. On the contrary.
How about you re-read YOUR post and Barns' comments that linked to it and explain.....
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Arthur1u ( 16 posts / 0 fights ) from Calgary, Alberta (Canada) on 07/09 at 12:52PM PT
Finally you have begun to think. You ask a massive question and sure fair enough it may not of been stepping on but there is an alternate meaning to just coming out and writing a first glance "You ask a massive question!" I mean really did I ask a massive question, or was I simply stating my opinion. Please do read it again and maybe things will be a little bit more clear?
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Arthur1u ( 16 posts / 0 fights ) from Calgary, Alberta (Canada) on 07/09 at 12:59PM PT
Another thing you keep sending these automated e-mails staying well the C-toad community enjoys conflicts, so voice my opinion by writing my own article. But really where is that going to get me when such an article I make will be "dead wrong" or 'politically incorrect'? From what I have read on this page so far I think what you choose is junk. At this point you don't deserve my hard work!
Arthur1u,
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jogor777 ( 78 posts / 5 fights ) from Paradise, California (United States) on 07/06 at 02:27PM PT
If the election were held today Giulani would win. The eventual nominees will be Richardson and Thompson and Richardson will be the next president.
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greg ( 7 posts / 0 fights ) from Columbia, Maryland (United States) on 07/09 at 12:15PM PT
If Richardson wins the nomination I will buy a hat and then eat that hat.
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jogor777 ( 78 posts / 5 fights ) from Paradise, California (United States) on 07/09 at 02:16PM PT
Thanx for the hat Greg, I can see myself wearing it already, feathers and all...I have met Richardson personally, years ago,and think that he is the most qualified by virtue of experience to be head honcho in chief...when Hilary stumbles Bill will be right there to step into the breach and get the nomination...Bill and a younger Kennedy, like RFK, Jr. would make a dynamite team...
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on 07/10 at 11:21AM PT
You are smoking industrial fertilizer.
You want to clear that up a tad for the thousands of us who are not getting it?
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jogor777 ( 78 posts / 5 fights ) from Paradise, California (United States) on 07/10 at 02:55PM PT
It must be all this heady argumentation that is turning my brain into mush (organic mush, no fertilizer). John 'N Johnette Q. Public will not elect an inexperienced black man or a poll driven scorned "furry" woman, so either at the convention or before a suitable compromise will have to be found..an experienced pol with Potomoc Cred who stresses diplomacy and is a governor from a small state, voila...Bill Richardson.
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on 07/11 at 12:25PM PT
You expect that this unknown with some baggage will become THEEE LEADER TO THE RESUCE?
Ouch ... if Richardson is our "best and brightest."
.... but then you did say he would be a default candidate ....
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jogor777 ( 78 posts / 5 fights ) from Paradise, California (United States) on 07/13 at 11:42AM PT
It must be remembered that "the best and brightest" seldom run for election. It is the compromise with the most money or the default guy who is drafted when the convention deadlocks...Richardson has the least baggage and the most experience than any of the current front runners.
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