MORAL WHIPLASH IN THE U.S.
Somebody please explain this to us ...
1. OBAMA is the most LIBERAL SENATOR sitting today.
2. The most emotional topic being debated across the U.S. is A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO DECIDE over her own body. THAT IS AN ARCHAIC, ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE ISSUE.
Yet...
How is it that in a country that has and continues to move back in time, as morality goes, has SO MANY MILLIONS GOING "GAH-GAH" OVER SUCH AN EXTREMELY LIBERAL, MORALLY AMBIGUOUS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE?
The topic seeks to get some light from our bright contributors as to how is it that the increasingly conservative electorate has so embraced a clearly liberal candidate.
Confused .....
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Grizz ( 501 posts / 14 fights ) from Balclotha, Clutha (New Zealand) on 05/31 at 04:26PM PT
Obama certainly knows how to pick 'em Just read the latest rantings from his church ,Now they're giving Hilary the business ,With implications of racism, treachery and so forth , I'll be interested to see how Obama reacts to the latest un-christian remarks from the pulpit
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from Den Of Ubiquity, California (United States)
on 06/02 at 08:58AM PTYour curiosity has been satisfied. The Obamas "quit" the Trinity Church.
Just thinking: that horse left the barn so long ago, it is likely in the glue factory by now.
The question is to what extent, if any, will this effect Obama's Kool-Aid candidacy in the general election?
Much more important is how sad a state of affairs when Barns has to REALLY FOCUS ON WHO THE V.P. MAY BE!! EITHER CANDIDATE'S VP !!
May be the most important V.P. in history.
In the words of the sagacious philosopher Woody Allen, just "looking for signs of intelligent life".
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palmero ( 25 posts / 0 fights ) from Chicago, Illinois (United States) on 05/20 at 07:06AM PT
What does one thing have to do with the other? Do you people not see that Obama is everybody's alternative to George Bush? The others running are only different versions of Bush. I also don't think you should worry about the country becoming more liberal when Barrack Obama becomes president. I think he will govern right down the middle.
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Harm ( 127 posts / 0 fights ) from Alexandria, Virginia (United States) on 05/20 at 07:10AM PT
Came in to read Ctoads and saw this post. Are you serious? I like Obama because he represents change. I am really concerned with what that means, though. On your post, what happens when President Obama has a chance to appoint Supreme Court justices. Right now he has to keep mouthing everything that helps him get elected. What happens after he gets elected? Will the real Obama stand up? Very interesting.
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rachee ( 91 posts / 2 fights ) from London, London (United Kingdom) on 05/20 at 06:34AM PT
I reckon so many Americans are ready to vote for a non-Bush that they will actually vote for Obama, whoever and whatever he may be. Best you all remember to be careful what you wish for. Politics on your side of the pond are so much tele. They are not much different here except that we tend to elect experienced people from the other side when we have political or economic whiplash.
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Backbiter ( 136 posts / 1 fights ) from West Hollywood, California (United States) on 05/19 at 11:39AM PT
I recently heard someone ask "What's a Liberal?". They honestly didn't know. Besides being a pejorative in the eyes of Limbaugh, Coulter and Fox News, I don't think the term means much anymore. It appears to mean anyone who's not a Right Wing Conservative (doesn't sound bad to me). Overuse by Neo-Con pundits in a funny way has left it a neutral term.
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from Den Of Ubiquity, California (United States)
on 05/20 at 06:30AM PT
You are most accommodating my fellow "non-pundit."
Entirely too intelligent for 10:50 AM ...
Rather than tackling your comment, I reflect on something I read a long, long time ago, and stuck with me considering its source then: When yo u are young, and you are not liberal, you don't have a heart. When you are old enough to have a family and a mortgage, and you are still liberal, you don't have a brain.
Now. If I could just remember the source.
That takes Barns to his position of choice, ALWAYS: simply and always issue specific.
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uncut0072002 ( 54 posts / 1 fights ) from Chicago, Illinois (United States) on 05/15 at 11:50AM PT
Relly tired of the incessant beat of those who seemingly are stuck in this barrage of conservative vs liberal pablum. You spend so much time screaming and accusing each other of being extremists that you all make me sick. You are great Sir at berating on Obama. It only leaves me to believe you are a far rightist. Will Rogers said. can't say anything good don't say anything.
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from Den Of Ubiquity, California (United States)
on 05/15 at 01:56PM PT
Your point may be good or not. It is irrelevant, in either event.
The question was, and remains, about the interesting dichotomy of this election. This topic is not about Obama at all.
On one hand, the most emotional topic being debated in the U.S. is FREEDOM OF CHOICE VS. RIGHT TO LIFE. Even you, sir, must admit that is an amazing matter on its own, considering that we are living in a modern society and this is the 21st Century.
Even you, sir, must admit that this country has been slipping precipitously and uncomfortably toward conservatism.
The topic seeks to get some light from our bright contributors as to how is it that the increasingly conservative electorate has so embraced a clearly liberal candidate.
So there.
As to categorizing Barns as a far rightist, that would be foolish.
And really wrong.
Yours truly is absolutely and unfailingly issue specific and never P.C.
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from Den Of Ubiquity, California (United States)
on 05/22 at 03:39PM PT
Yo pilgrim.
Your silence on this is deafening.
Come back to us and shed some intellectual blood.
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Backbiter ( 136 posts / 1 fights ) from West Hollywood, California (United States) on 05/31 at 11:23PM PT
Reagan was a Conservative, yet he outspent and grew the government bureaucracy more than every President before him. Liberal and Conservative doesn't mean anything. It's a diversion to get people to care about something that really doesn't matter so that they support their party. Barns makes a great point...so called Conservatives will abandon one of the basic Conservative values when they're diverted from it. The war and the economy has diverted them.
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